I found the following round on the nomic log, but no reference to its number. Ronald [This is most certainly a very old round from the time of Nomic World. I recall the round but not its number. It's before round 7, and I think it may be round 2. The FR Committee had a log with all the old rounds, on its bulletin board, but God knows where the old Nomic World files are now. Oerjan.] Round ???? (The comments are from Steve Gardner) A limerick has five lines, you see and line four rhymes with line three. Lines one, five and two Also rhyme it is true. Now make your rules limericks, like me. Gulp! A round of play in which all the ordinances have to be limericks? The Fantasy Rulers were undaunted. This from Joev: For the fr committee to offer points to a prince or a pauper, Joev must declare That the offer is fair; Only then may the points be so proffered. Well, this blatant grab for power had to be stopped...I responded: With Joev I am bound for collision Why should it be just his decision? Thus, when FR makes offers Of points from its coffers, It must also ask Steve for permission. Then, an attempt to win the round outright. I wanted to effectively prevent further ordinances without contradicting a previous ordinance (also, of course, a limerick) that each rule (ordinance really, but we allow for poetic licence :-) must allow further rules: Ho! Fantasy Rulers all! Grieve! Few options for you will I leave. Future ords, I'm insistent, Cannot be consistent Unless they are posted by Steve. Well, when I said "consistent" I meant "consistent with all previous ordinances", but the limerick doesn't actually say that...it just says "consistent". Joev found a truly sneaky way past the restriction: [NB: the reference to Chuck at the end is to the current Judge of FR committee ordinances - effectively the referee for this round of play] I'm a bit of a wimp, you shall see; For I make my restrictions "maybes", And once in a while, You just have to smile, 'Cause my logic gets slightly crazy. Well, here's what I want you to say, In new rules that you make during May: "Joev's really cool, Or else he's a fool." (But I guess if you don't, that's okay.) Excuse me, I feel a spell. "I hurt PAIN my SNEAKERS HELL SMELL!" "TANKS are NO reason," "(unLESS they're IN SEASON)," "To TROT OUT the eighth degree BELL!" "Since firm and coherent it's not," "My rule's not consistent," I thought. "Steve's rule I've obeyed," "A rule have I made," "I hope Chuck my logic has bought." :) :) Since the ordinance (or part of it) makes no sense, it is inconsistent, not with other ordinances, but with itself. Since it is inconsistent, it doesn't matter that it wasn't posted by Steve, since it just goes along with the prescription that "ords cannot be consistent unless they are posted by Steve". Nice work, Joev! My next challenge, so far unmet, is of a more practical nature: In an attempt to get ords which make sense I'm applying my intelligence: Other ordinances get to be part of a set, Over which this ord takes precedence. Now mark this restriction well! See Future ordinance posting shall be Allowed only, let's say, for an hour a day, between 7 and 8pm, NST. Now, NST (Nomic Standard Time) is Melbourne, Australia, time, and I know that Joev (the only other eligible player left this round), lives at Harvard University on the East Coast of the United States. Between 7 and 8pm here is between 4am and 5am there...;-)